Hungarian news site Azonnali interviewed the president of the German CDU’s youth wing, Junge Union, Paul Ziemiak. The young German politician heard about the “Soros plan” from the Hungarian outlet, but he thinks Fidesz is the most important pillar of European thought in Hungary, and not awkward at all for the CDU. According to Azonnali, what can be awkward for the CDU is that Ziemiek attempted to withdraw the interview.
Last December, the German Christian democratic CDU’s foundation, Konrad Adenauer Stiftung (KAS) organised a conference in Budapest entitled Youth and Europe, inviting young, right-wing conservative politicians from Germany and Central Europe. One of the speakers was Paul Ziemiak, Junge Union’s president. Junge Union is the youth wing of CDU, and according to Azonnali, Ziemiak is considered a pro-Merkel politician. They made a short interview with Ziemiak after the event. After they sent him the word-by-word transcript of the interview before publishing, Ziemiak’s office said they don’t approve the interview, but provided no explanation. The Hungarian news site tried to negotiate to no effect, so they released the interview anyway.
According to Ziemiak Germany doesn’t need Viktor Orban, they have Angela Merkel. The thinks they can be proud of the government performance they provided during the last twelve years for Germany and Europe, they found solutions to all problems.
“Now everybody is arguing about the refugee crisis, but we found something for that too, of course partially with Hungary’s cooperation. In the CDU everyone is very happy that we have Angela Merkel,”
When asked whether he had heard about the “Soros plan”, the German politician replied “no”. Azonnali noted that “if it’s true what they say, he has influence over half the world. Obama, Brussels, the left side, maybe even some parts of the CDU…who knows”. Ziemiak said:
“This is the first time I hear about this, so I can’t really add anything”.
He said he knows that their relationship with Fidesz started a long ago, and their common story can’t be judged only by the last months, or the last seven days. “Fidesz is contesting against a right-wing radical party in Hungary”, he said. Azonnali noted that the mentioned party “is pursuing an increasingly moderate line”. Ziemiak and the news site both clearly referred to the Fidesz’s strongest challenger, Jobbik.
Ziemiak thinks that Jobbik is still more extreme than Fidesz, which is an important pillar of the European thought in Hungary. He added that they have a different opinion on a number of issues compared to the CDU, “it’s CSU which is a bit closer to Fidesz’s worldview, but we’re not sitting in the same party, just the same party family”.
The German politician rejected the implication that Fidesz can be awkward for CDU, due to its European policy. He said:
“We have to see that there’s one fundamental question in the EU today everyone has to answer: do we want to make it better or to destroy it?”
Ziemiak’s impression is that “Fidesz – even if it has a different opinion on a number of issues – pursues a pro-Europe policy”. He thinks Fidesz has its own ideas, but they don’t reject it. “The ideas of Fidesz or Emmanuel Macron can be good or bad – what matters is that they want a strong Europe”, he stated.
About AfD’s rise he said it poses a challenge, adding that it’s not the AfD he cares about, but the people, what disappoints the voters, what problems, fears they have, what was the reason they lost their votes. He thinks that it’s the issue of Europe and Merkel’s personal attitude that drives people to the CDU.